1 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:29,669 [Music] 2 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:30,230 when an 3 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:32,399 object crashes you're going to scatter a 4 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:34,880 variety of materials around 5 00:00:41,110 --> 00:00:38,559 knobs control devices plastic wires 6 00:00:42,790 --> 00:00:41,120 whatever if it's coming apart it's going 7 00:00:43,990 --> 00:00:42,800 to leave those pieces behind and those 8 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:44,000 are the kinds of pieces that 9 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:48,079 i want to find and have found some of 10 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:50,079 hi everybody my name is frank kimbler 11 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:51,920 and i'm an associate professor of earth 12 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:54,079 science living and working in roswell 13 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:54,960 new mexico 14 00:00:58,310 --> 00:00:57,120 i like to think of it as the et capital 15 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:58,320 of the world 16 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:00,399 you know i've spent almost 10 years 17 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:02,320 looking for physical evidence of the 18 00:01:06,550 --> 00:01:04,159 roswell crash 19 00:01:09,109 --> 00:01:06,560 in fact right now we're looking at some 20 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:09,119 drone footage of the the crash site 21 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:12,640 i thought it would be a a good um 22 00:01:19,109 --> 00:01:15,920 nice little addition to the talk to have 23 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:19,119 a look at uh at the crash site some of 24 00:01:22,870 --> 00:01:21,040 you have never seen it before 25 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:22,880 some of my artifact discoveries have 26 00:01:28,230 --> 00:01:24,400 recently been featured 27 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:28,240 on ancient aliens season 15 28 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:31,600 episode 2 relics of roswell i'm going to 29 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,600 take you on an adventure 30 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:35,040 we're going to take a look at some 31 00:01:39,749 --> 00:01:36,799 behind the scenes 32 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,759 stuff some amazing discoveries not 33 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:41,439 talked about on the ancient aliens 34 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:43,439 relics of roswell episode 35 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:45,840 what we're looking at here is a bird's 36 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:46,720 eye view 37 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:49,040 of the roswell debris field might be 38 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:50,320 even the one that the 39 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:52,880 alien pilot saw as he was crashing kind 40 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:55,439 of an eerie thought on that 41 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:57,200 off on the right hand side you're going 42 00:02:01,670 --> 00:01:59,520 to see kind of a white area 43 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:01,680 right middle in that white area i found 44 00:02:06,069 --> 00:02:03,840 some military buttons out there that 45 00:02:07,830 --> 00:02:06,079 dated from 1947 46 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,840 and those have been actually proven that 47 00:02:11,830 --> 00:02:09,599 they were military buttons which sort of 48 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:11,840 proves that the military was out there 49 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:14,560 an interesting thing about uh going out 50 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:16,640 to the debris field that's what we call 51 00:02:20,869 --> 00:02:18,720 it the roswell crash site 52 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:20,879 is that if you think about the 53 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:22,800 historical 54 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:25,280 read some of the stories about ufos and 55 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:27,120 when they land they leave 56 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:29,280 they leave behind the places where the 57 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:31,120 vegetation doesn't grow 58 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:33,680 well a lot of the material a lot of the 59 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:35,200 artifacts that i have found 60 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:38,080 have come from the areas that are kind 61 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:39,840 of cleared off like you see 62 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:43,200 in this this video and in addition to 63 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:46,800 metallic artifacts i have found a number 64 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:47,680 of other 65 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:50,560 artifacts out there in particular i 66 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:51,120 found some 67 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:53,519 bakelite like plastic after a rainstorm 68 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:54,560 that was just laying 69 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:57,040 on the surface it's absolutely 70 00:03:00,309 --> 00:02:58,640 fascinating to be out there 71 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:00,319 it gives you kind of an eerie feeling 72 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:02,239 especially at night with the stars it's 73 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:03,440 beautiful i've gone out there with a 74 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,000 black light 75 00:03:08,149 --> 00:03:06,560 at night looking for things and so 76 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:08,159 you're going to have the opportunity to 77 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:09,760 take a look at some of the artifacts 78 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:10,480 that have come 79 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:14,000 from the debris field like that drone 80 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:15,360 shadows kind of cool 81 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:17,280 kind of floating around over there to 82 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:19,360 that wasn't a ufo it's my own 83 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:21,760 anyway gary holloway was the person that 84 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,480 shot this 85 00:03:26,550 --> 00:03:24,640 uh this drone footage is a good friend 86 00:03:29,670 --> 00:03:26,560 of mine and he does good work 87 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:29,680 so it was very nice to have that 88 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:32,400 now here is a picture of some of the 89 00:03:37,589 --> 00:03:34,400 artifacts that i had 90 00:03:39,670 --> 00:03:37,599 found out there this particular piece is 91 00:03:42,309 --> 00:03:39,680 not as old and dingy as some of it but 92 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:42,319 this is one of them 93 00:03:46,229 --> 00:03:45,120 they're fun to look at and to hold and 94 00:03:48,710 --> 00:03:46,239 examine 95 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:48,720 they are they're unusual looking some of 96 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:49,519 them are 97 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:52,319 twisted and mangled up uh when you hold 98 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:53,840 them in your hands uh 99 00:03:57,350 --> 00:03:56,080 you know you get this idea of being oh 100 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:57,360 gee you know could this be 101 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:59,280 an actual piece of an extraterrestrial 102 00:04:03,429 --> 00:04:00,959 spacecraft it's pretty cool 103 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:03,439 to look at this some of them when you 104 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:04,560 look at them uh 105 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:06,640 under a little microscope you can see uh 106 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:08,239 some scratches from the fact they've 107 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:09,760 been laying around out there for a long 108 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:12,239 time this one's been scratched up a lot 109 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,360 so we take this material we put it uh 110 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:17,199 put it on a microscope stage we look at 111 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:19,440 it to see what it's made out of and such 112 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:22,160 so the older pieces like this one end up 113 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:24,160 being some of the most fascinating ones 114 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:25,680 that are out there 115 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:28,880 the old the old ones are kind of crusty 116 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:30,479 looking they've been buried for a very 117 00:04:34,469 --> 00:04:31,840 long time 118 00:04:34,870 --> 00:04:34,479 so we take these samples they're mounted 119 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:34,880 on 120 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:42,479 has the capability 121 00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:45,759 of looking at the individual elements 122 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:48,240 and so we get high magnification and we 123 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:49,120 also get 124 00:04:54,310 --> 00:04:52,400 uh the wonderful uh element 125 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:54,320 concentration this is kind of like one 126 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,840 of the machines what it looks like the 127 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:57,680 electron microscope 128 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:01,520 so when this sample the older sample was 129 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:04,160 looked at under the microscope 130 00:05:09,909 --> 00:05:07,520 it showed this is 500 times it actually 131 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:09,919 showed some something that looked like a 132 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:11,919 rod or a tube 133 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:13,919 on the left hand side that silvery stuff 134 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:14,960 is aluminum 135 00:05:18,469 --> 00:05:16,560 now i've seen these rods and tubes 136 00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:18,479 before i always thought they were tree 137 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:19,039 roots 138 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:21,360 but they're not according to the 139 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:23,199 research scientists that was looking at 140 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:25,759 this these have an unusual composition 141 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:27,680 and they're not tree roots the other 142 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:29,600 little fibers that you see the little 143 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:31,840 uh pieces stuff that looks like hair is 144 00:05:35,909 --> 00:05:32,639 in fact 145 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:35,919 a fungus so we're going to take a look 146 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:38,800 at the build up of the image you can 147 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:40,479 actually hear the sound of the electron 148 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:41,759 microscope we're going to look at the 149 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:43,520 build up of the image 150 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:47,199 as it looks at the sample at some 151 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:49,840 5 000 times magnification now this is 152 00:05:53,749 --> 00:05:51,520 stuff you don't see 153 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:53,759 in ancient aliens and then we're also 154 00:05:57,670 --> 00:05:54,800 going to have the 155 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:57,680 opportunity to listen to what some of 156 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:02,550 electron microscope engineers the 157 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:04,080 scientists are looking at so we're going 158 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:05,520 to i'm going to be quiet here and let 159 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:07,199 you hear what they say about what they 160 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:08,960 find 161 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:30,550 tin and silver 162 00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:34,550 yellow this so it's not very similar 163 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:54,309 see that yellow yep 164 00:06:58,230 --> 00:06:56,870 i love that when the um the scientist 165 00:07:00,629 --> 00:06:58,240 comes back and says oh looks like this 166 00:07:01,270 --> 00:07:00,639 was in a fire or maybe it blew up yeah i 167 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:01,280 think so 168 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:02,639 right out of the debris field and 169 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:05,280 scattered stuff over about a square mile 170 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:06,960 so i want to explain what you're looking 171 00:07:10,309 --> 00:07:08,479 at in the image here and some of the 172 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:10,319 fascinating things that were found 173 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:13,440 um in the color uh top left in the 174 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,520 little boxes that's 175 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:17,360 that that yellow splotchy stuff is 176 00:07:21,749 --> 00:07:19,280 carbon and the uh 177 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:21,759 then you get the blue coloration there 178 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:22,720 which is 179 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,319 uh oxygen on that and then 180 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:28,080 we're gonna take a look at there's some 181 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:30,080 aluminum and red that's the next box 182 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:31,199 over in green 183 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:34,960 is silicon magnesium is yellow 184 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:38,080 phosphorus is light blue and one of the 185 00:07:43,430 --> 00:07:40,400 more fascinating ones second row 186 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:43,440 third one over is silver 187 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:46,240 and then way over on the right bottom 188 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:46,800 lower 189 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:49,520 right box is 10. these are things that 190 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:50,240 normally 191 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:53,520 do not show up at all 192 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:55,280 normally they might be impurities but 193 00:07:59,110 --> 00:07:57,360 not in this concentration so the rod 194 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:59,120 ended up being kind of unusual having 195 00:08:02,710 --> 00:07:59,520 both 196 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:02,720 tin and silver in it and it's metallic 197 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:03,199 it's not 198 00:08:08,790 --> 00:08:05,440 all organic and it's surrounded by some 199 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:08,800 carbon uh probably from a fire 200 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:11,919 this piece right here is uh was very 201 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:13,280 interesting it's been clipped off 202 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:14,720 because it's been looked at before 203 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:18,080 we put this one back on uh back on the 204 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:21,039 electron microscope stage to take a look 205 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:22,319 at it we have to 206 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:24,960 put it on that and we shove it into the 207 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:26,160 electron microscope 208 00:08:29,350 --> 00:08:28,319 that can look at the elements in this 209 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:29,360 and then 210 00:08:33,269 --> 00:08:31,520 what happens is we get the answer back 211 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:33,279 so all of these things come back in nice 212 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:34,479 vivid color 213 00:08:37,829 --> 00:08:36,800 and one of the things that we can see in 214 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:37,839 this image 215 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:40,959 is that this has barium so 216 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:44,959 barium is is showing up in that bottom 217 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:46,080 um 218 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:49,360 you'll see the silver it says aag on it 219 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:51,040 and that's in that bottom uh in the 220 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:52,399 white and also there's some 221 00:08:55,509 --> 00:08:54,320 indium so we've got barium we've got 222 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:55,519 silver and we've got 223 00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:57,920 indium you can also see it on the left 224 00:09:03,910 --> 00:08:59,279 in 225 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:03,920 this 226 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,600 but the indium and the silver it 227 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:07,200 shouldn't be there 228 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:09,760 and neither should the barium we're 229 00:09:13,829 --> 00:09:11,519 going to talk about the barium it's kind 230 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:13,839 of fascinating i always thought it was 231 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:18,560 some kind of a ground impurity 232 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,880 so interesting thing about the barium is 233 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:22,560 that this gentleman right here in this 234 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:25,040 picture his name is aaron velasquez he's 235 00:09:29,190 --> 00:09:26,399 with theta plate 236 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:29,200 in albuquerque and theta plate did some 237 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:29,920 some of the 238 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:32,160 analytical work on the ancient alien 239 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:33,360 specimens 240 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:37,680 and you know he basically 241 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:39,120 has some friends that work in the 242 00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:40,959 nuclear industry and 243 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:43,839 uh he spoke to them about what we had 244 00:09:48,470 --> 00:09:44,399 found 245 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:48,480 and he talked about the barium in there 246 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:51,920 come to find out that barium is a 247 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:55,279 direct result or a byproduct of nuclear 248 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:56,959 weapon testing 249 00:10:00,550 --> 00:09:59,279 so that was uh that was pretty 250 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:00,560 fascinating that 251 00:10:07,829 --> 00:10:04,560 this material is could have been 252 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:07,839 from the date leftovers from the nuclear 253 00:10:11,590 --> 00:10:09,519 testing or it might have been something 254 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:11,600 that was related to the crash itself 255 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:13,600 i don't think it's a natural impurity at 256 00:10:17,509 --> 00:10:14,720 all 257 00:10:18,230 --> 00:10:17,519 so i went back and looked at some of my 258 00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:18,240 old 259 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:20,720 research that i had done and of course 260 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:22,720 this is me out at the debris field 261 00:10:26,630 --> 00:10:24,640 i found my first artifact in the 262 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:26,640 background back there 263 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:29,279 this piece was one that was found and 264 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:30,959 this one was not featured on ancient 265 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:32,480 aliens but i wanted to show you because 266 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:33,760 it's kind of a nice 267 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:37,360 nice piece of metallic debris 268 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:39,040 some of it's very shiny some of it i 269 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:41,120 think is trash some of it 270 00:10:46,310 --> 00:10:44,959 is has to be an e.t origin 271 00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:46,320 i just it's hard to get people to 272 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:48,480 believe that's there 273 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:51,760 the fascinating things that is the older 274 00:10:55,269 --> 00:10:52,640 stuff 275 00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:55,279 this material right here is buried three 276 00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:57,440 or four inches deep when it's found 277 00:11:03,269 --> 00:11:00,560 it is twisted and mangled up and it has 278 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:03,279 some very interesting properties to it 279 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:06,240 so this was a different show this was 280 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:07,600 through the smithsonian 281 00:11:12,550 --> 00:11:10,560 network and this was ufos declassified 282 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:12,560 that guy's name is dave burley there's 283 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:14,000 me in the picture 284 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:16,560 and then on the right hand side is don 285 00:11:20,470 --> 00:11:17,440 schmidt 286 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:20,480 now dave burley worked for uh 287 00:11:25,590 --> 00:11:23,680 as a metallurgist for alcoa and 288 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:25,600 when he was looking at this he said that 289 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:27,680 the barium which clearly shows up as a 290 00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:28,800 ba in this picture 291 00:11:33,030 --> 00:11:31,519 basically says it's an impurity that 292 00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:33,040 that probably comes from ground 293 00:11:36,310 --> 00:11:34,800 contamination i don't think so 294 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:36,320 there's also a little bit of sulfur 295 00:11:41,269 --> 00:11:39,360 that's from uh basically gypsum 296 00:11:42,550 --> 00:11:41,279 it's it's a sulfate mineral that's in 297 00:11:44,710 --> 00:11:42,560 the soil out there 298 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:44,720 one of the weird things is zirconium you 299 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:46,640 can see that between the silicon and the 300 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:47,920 sulfur 301 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:51,120 but barium shows up a lot in these 302 00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:52,079 samples 303 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:54,000 this was a second sample that was run i 304 00:11:57,509 --> 00:11:55,839 know it says jones dust at the top but 305 00:11:58,629 --> 00:11:57,519 that's uh this is what it was done in 306 00:12:01,509 --> 00:11:58,639 jones hall 307 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:01,519 so uh over at the university of new 308 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:03,040 mexico tech i'm sorry you got to get it 309 00:12:07,590 --> 00:12:03,760 right 310 00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:07,600 so silicon magnesium manganese iron and 311 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:10,079 of course the barium shows up again in 312 00:12:12,230 --> 00:12:12,000 this and the zirconium was really kind 313 00:12:15,509 --> 00:12:12,240 of 314 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:15,519 a very strange thing to see 315 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:18,560 in this stuff now 316 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:22,000 i took giorgio and linda 317 00:12:26,550 --> 00:12:24,399 out to the debris field to do a little 318 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:26,560 bit of metal detecting 319 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:29,200 and i wanted to go to kind of a 320 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:31,360 historically significant spot 321 00:12:35,430 --> 00:12:33,200 crash site itself is historically 322 00:12:37,829 --> 00:12:35,440 significant but an interesting thing 323 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:37,839 this gentleman right here appearing with 324 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:38,800 don schmidt 325 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:42,240 ufo and famous ufo roswell investigator 326 00:12:45,590 --> 00:12:44,800 that guy wearing the cowboy hat his name 327 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:45,600 is bill 328 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:48,880 brazel now um he is related to mac 329 00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:49,920 brazzle 330 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:53,680 and the park where they were parked the 331 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:54,880 area where they were parked 332 00:12:58,629 --> 00:12:57,839 is an area where he had found some 333 00:13:02,870 --> 00:12:58,639 fragments 334 00:13:05,910 --> 00:13:02,880 of ufo material roswell material 335 00:13:08,310 --> 00:13:05,920 now giorgio after after i was looking 336 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:08,320 around with my metal detector for 337 00:13:11,910 --> 00:13:10,079 several hours it was about to break off 338 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:11,920 i think the film crew was getting bored 339 00:13:16,629 --> 00:13:14,160 so i gave the detector to giorgio and he 340 00:13:19,430 --> 00:13:16,639 started looking and within a few minutes 341 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:19,440 uh he found something and what he found 342 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:21,680 was a piece of wire 343 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:24,480 now interesting story about this wire is 344 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:25,680 that i have found 345 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:28,240 several pieces of this wire out there 346 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:29,120 before 347 00:13:32,389 --> 00:13:30,639 and i just throw in my backpack and i 348 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:32,399 don't think anything about it 349 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:34,399 we decided to have this material 350 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:36,240 analyzed to see if it had anything 351 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:39,760 unusual in it so we basically uh 352 00:13:46,629 --> 00:13:42,800 took it to took it to theta plate and 353 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:46,639 had aaron velasquez take a look at this 354 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:49,839 rusty iron wire this is me talking to 355 00:13:53,509 --> 00:13:52,560 uh to linda uh in reference to what 356 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:53,519 we're going to do 357 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:54,800 with the material and where we're going 358 00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:57,120 to send it off at 359 00:14:01,030 --> 00:13:59,680 so uh the mesh white machine in the 360 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:01,040 background on the right 361 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:04,320 is an x-ray fluorescence machine x-ray 362 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:06,320 and it basically can look at the 363 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:08,800 elemental composition of things 364 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:11,279 and we're looking at the screen we found 365 00:14:14,550 --> 00:14:12,320 selenium 366 00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:14,560 in it didn't show up in other other 367 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:15,440 tests 368 00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:17,279 here's a close-up view of the wire it 369 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:19,360 just looks like typical junk wire but 370 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:20,079 then 371 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:24,480 we sent this off to the lab in dallas 372 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:26,800 texas alternate systems i think is their 373 00:14:32,710 --> 00:14:31,910 barium showed up again in this and you 374 00:14:35,110 --> 00:14:32,720 can see it 375 00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:35,120 i'm kind of like in the way so the 376 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:37,040 barium is just to the left of the iron 377 00:14:40,150 --> 00:14:37,600 peak 378 00:14:41,590 --> 00:14:40,160 but also we had indium show up as well 379 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:41,600 as some molybdenum 380 00:14:44,629 --> 00:14:43,680 so the barium was the more fascinating 381 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:44,639 part of this 382 00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:47,600 and the barium along with oxygen there's 383 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:48,959 oxygen there comes from the rust and 384 00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:50,720 silicon a little bit of aluminum 385 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:52,800 don't know why that's there but it is 386 00:14:56,230 --> 00:14:54,800 but the molybdenum and the indium and 387 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:56,240 the barium the barium is 388 00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:59,279 is fascinating once again we strongly 389 00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:00,880 think that it came from a nuclear 390 00:15:05,269 --> 00:15:02,079 explosion 391 00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:05,279 i was lucky enough to be able to uh 392 00:15:09,269 --> 00:15:07,600 handle and touch some of linda's 393 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:09,279 material that was uh 394 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,480 that layered material that the 395 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:14,560 to the stars academy has been 396 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:15,760 investigating 397 00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:18,560 fascinating layered bismuth magnesium 398 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:19,440 stuff 399 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:21,519 took a nice picture of it this is it i 400 00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:23,360 don't know what to make of it 401 00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:25,360 so here's a picture of giorgio and the 402 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:26,399 producer 403 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:27,839 director of the show we're out at the 404 00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:29,759 debris field and 405 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:31,839 talking about the day there's the 406 00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:34,639 cameraman shooting a picture of me 407 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:36,720 shooting a picture of him i like doing 408 00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:37,920 stuff like that 409 00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:40,959 anyway you can contact me um 410 00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:44,079 basically at my email address which 411 00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:49,199 is f kembler gmail.com i'm also 412 00:15:54,069 --> 00:15:52,240 on facebook and 413 00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:54,079 i'll have to say that this was a very 414 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,560 fun uh fun talk to give i had to learn 415 00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:58,000 some new things 416 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:00,959 uh i've never done green screen my eyes 417 00:16:05,269 --> 00:16:03,279 are kind of like glowing like aliens 418 00:16:07,509 --> 00:16:05,279 and the reason for that is my screen's 419 00:16:09,749 --> 00:16:07,519 not green it's blue and so are my eyes 420 00:16:11,749 --> 00:16:09,759 so i made this wonderful mistake 421 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:11,759 so this was really kind of fun if you 422 00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:13,040 have any questions 423 00:16:19,509 --> 00:16:16,639 uh you can contact me i'll be 424 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:19,519 basically available to talk to folks 425 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:20,079 anyway 426 00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:22,560 signing off from roswell new mexico love